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Post by vendile on Feb 4, 2007 12:50:38 GMT
... arantel, its sci-fi! it doesn't all have to be able to be explained!
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Post by thenephew on Feb 4, 2007 17:09:30 GMT
I'm with Arantel here - GW went for Deuterium [depleted admittedly] when they wanted a 'new' material. I think it's important we stick with using the same structure GW has set up, using materials that are at least very nearly possible, or possible with a bit of misused jargon in there. The idea that this world has a new element, that has never previously been mentioned in any background [implying obscene rarity at least], but has not been mined to pieces by the AdMech, is simply ridiculous. I stand by my statement that a burning ocean is just unfeasible. Even if it wasn't, it would be put out to stop it burning any more precious resource.
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Post by vendile on Feb 4, 2007 19:39:44 GMT
okay then, i wasn't particularily defending the whole 'burning patch of water' idea - which admittably i'm not too keen on - I was just putting forward usggestions, as we all have been, to inspire ideas and the creation of this planet.
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Post by inquisitorarantel on Feb 5, 2007 16:18:45 GMT
If we decide that the resource is under a layer of non-flammable stuff in most of the ocean, we have an explanation for the burning ocean- at this point is a big plume where the resource reaches the surface, but it can't burn it all because there's no oxygen lower down so the lower bits can't be burned.
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Post by vendile on Feb 5, 2007 16:36:21 GMT
...the resource does not burn on contact with the air, that was something else entirely, which appears to have been turned down by the consensis. So no burning patch of sea, which to be honest, i agree with.
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Post by thenephew on Feb 5, 2007 18:54:13 GMT
On the subject of the global map, however, I like the general layout we have so far, with a few very small islands, and one huge landmass. The point raised about it needing a mountainous area in the middle could be worked in, or removed by several centuries of violent acidic storms before the planet had settled down environmentally.
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Post by vendile on Feb 6, 2007 17:06:07 GMT
what about if the island is infact the meeting point of three continental plates? and whilst there are only ever very minor troumrs every few years or so, the centre of the main mountain range has a couple active volcanoes?
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Post by thenephew on Feb 6, 2007 20:15:41 GMT
That works, and adds the occasional extra danger, possibility of doomsday weapons, covering/uncovering of ancient sites or artifacts, an active lithosphere and an explanation as to why the islands all seem to be in three continuous lines leading out fro the landmass. Currently the islands don't, but it's something worth considering. This next one involves a few assumptions on where other threads end up, but bear with me... If the system's star flares, then it could violently flair exactly (to within minutes) every 17 weeks. If the land mass is on the dark side every time, then the city is protected, and the opposite side is blasted every 17 weeks. If the gap left by the tectonic plates moving apart is on the other side of the world to our land mass, it would be regularly exposed to high doses of various radation forms. The magma bubbles up out of the gap in the plates, creating a volcano roughly over the hole in the crust. There is a massive electro-magnetic field generated by the entry of the pulses of particles into the planet's magnetosphere. The effect of this on the iron core has caused a cycle of semi regular eruptions occuring from this volcano that are approximately in sync with the star flares. The combined energy and magnetic stimulation acting upon the fresh magma bubbling out of the volcano sometimes leads to great balls of very porous of rock floating away from this vent. It is on these rocks that many of the earlier Hive bergs were built, before the PDF took to sinking them as health hazards to the current population of sea-faring cities.
Edit: The massive magnetic interference will also disrupt electromagnetic communications, so a spot of larger-scale piracy while the radios are down would be easy money.
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Post by vendile on Feb 6, 2007 21:33:21 GMT
whilst intially sceptical as i began reading... thats fantastic in my opinion Nephew
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Post by thenephew on Feb 6, 2007 21:45:26 GMT
Thanks. I'm guessing there are a few mistakes or misapplied concepts in there somewhere, which we will hopefully be able to work around. It may perhaps be better to have the production of each floating island to coincide with only the really really massive solar flares, or just after them. These would only happed every few decades, or centuries. This way, there would be a limited supply of ready and (kind of) free baserocks for hivebergs, limiting the overpopulation of the seas.
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