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Post by Doug on Feb 1, 2007 18:09:16 GMT
This concept's been nosed about alot recently, and I think it's a good idea...however, we have absolutely nothing solid on it, except perhaps a few suggestions of how and when it disappeared on the couple of possible timelines Necris and I have posted...I qwuite like the idea it dosappeared into the, "Daemons Square," and infamous Bermuada Triangle type area...
Anyway. The Ghost Berg. Discuss.
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Post by inquisitorarantel on Feb 1, 2007 18:44:44 GMT
Perhaps it has many different factions on it, fighting over the engine room and navigation consoles...
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Post by Doug on Feb 1, 2007 18:53:08 GMT
Hmmm...at the moment, the idea (admiteddy taken only from the two draft timelines by Necris and I) is that it disappeared over a millenia ago (I can't remember the exact sort of date)...which I suspect rather precludes that sort of activit, I'm afraid to say.
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Post by vendile on Feb 1, 2007 19:05:38 GMT
i'm rather dubious about the whole loss of communication thing, as it really wouldn't be much trouble for the AdMech to send a large team from the Spaceport in shuttlecrafts to investigate - afterall, even in an ocean planet, it won't be that hard to find something the size of a hive-berg.
EDIT: consider the fact that a boring old imperial troop transport starship has powerful enough scanners to locate titans on a planets surface...
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Post by Doug on Feb 1, 2007 19:08:58 GMT
Hmmm...would it be cliched to mention the infamous, "Daemon's Square," ( a Bermuda triangle type thing) and the warp in conjunction with this...?
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Post by vendile on Feb 1, 2007 19:46:19 GMT
it would rather.
fair enough, all seas have their areas of bad currents and strong storms, but it just doesn't seem 'right' that the ghostberg had simply died like that. it would make much more sense for it to have been a casualty in that civil war you mention in the history - perhaps it was the bio-chemical missile strike that destroyed the ghostbergs population which spured the Imperial Church (can't spell Ellisticery-ma-bob-er) into threatening to declair that one family excommunicate - desperate to prevent to lost of any more of the extremly valueable hive-bergs.
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Post by inquisitorarantel on Feb 1, 2007 19:53:43 GMT
Ecclesiarchy.
It would probably be easy to find, unless it was somehow camoflaged- perhaps by being nearly sunk and covered in The Resource, so it registers as just another patch of ocean.
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Post by necris on Feb 1, 2007 19:58:08 GMT
There are many examples where imperial scanners wouldn't be able to find a baneblade right infront of it, so the scanners is not an issue,
they could be emitting a zone of static or something that stops all forms of digital detection.
I am quite fond of the idea that this was an ad mech controlled hive and something has gone horribly horribly wrong with somone's experiemnts resulting is much silence and death
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Post by takaetun on Feb 2, 2007 4:26:04 GMT
That whole area could be static-a-cised, in fact. Or, It could have kinda sunk, with almost nothing sticking up. That would easily conceal it.
I like the idea of the whole thing just vanishing, rather than being lost to war or storms or whatever.
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Post by necris on Feb 2, 2007 8:43:05 GMT
Yeah I do too, theres a greater feel of creepy if something just suddenly stops everything, such as communications, shippings, even more creepy if it vanishes off the radar all of a sudden as if cloaked from sight (ohhhh chaos magic) that something being destoryed in a war and coming back or being sunk in a storm
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Post by takaetun on Feb 2, 2007 8:53:44 GMT
Why chaos magic? There are plenty of other types of magic and technology in the universe. Chaos is getting a bit cliched.
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Post by thenephew on Feb 4, 2007 16:32:55 GMT
The idea of a buried past civilisation came up in another thread , which would be a perfect way to have massive staic/interference areas across the world. Unfortunately, I'm not so sure a convincing reason as to why it managed to vanish so long ago, still have enough of an effect to be relevant, but not have been re-colonised/properly sunk for safety reasons/scavenged to pieces/re-floated if it sunk etc. If the records of it's sinking had been lost, then a recent rediscovery of the files by an inquisitor/Administratum audit/unlikely accident could bring it back into play, if it had sunk or run aground in a rarely frequented area of sea.
Edit - And i'm afraid I'd have to agree that Chaos magic seems to be doing everything lately - at least it wasn't the C'tan.
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Post by Doug on Feb 4, 2007 18:27:07 GMT
Why not say it was corrupted in that chaos incursion discussed briefly in the timeline thread, and sunk for its own sake by the Imperials - and then have a mysterious, unknown hiveberg re-appear shortly before the present day, at least in rumour, one which resembles that hiveberg as it was last seen?
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Post by vendile on Feb 4, 2007 19:25:26 GMT
its a bit... much, really, even for the 40kverse.
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Post by necris on Feb 5, 2007 1:39:20 GMT
Well my chaos magic comment would be the standing for any reasoning any inquisitor would say when a thing the size of a hive burg can't be found because it can't be seen by any means possible
it could be a massive tau steath generator for all we know.
but some reason for it not to appear is required
as for its origins I think the whole simply disapearing and assumed to have sung during a storm/accident what ever reason is the best way forward for this,
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