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Post by Doug on Feb 3, 2007 13:56:47 GMT
I'm going to side with fuel of some sort, rather than anything else - water will suffice for engine coolant in most cases, I suspect, and is more far more generaly availabe within the Imperium than this
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Post by thenephew on Feb 3, 2007 16:32:06 GMT
I'd agree with Doug on that - anything that is worth that expense is going to need to be really useful, and in limited supply. That means fuel, or ammo. Coolant and other similar things simply aren't irreplaceable enough to make them a viable choice. Ammo from the sea seems like a silly idea, and fuel looks the better choice anyway.
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Post by inquisitorarantel on Feb 3, 2007 20:07:41 GMT
Extremely efficient fuel that allows the tanks to run at optimum capacity...
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Post by vendile on Feb 4, 2007 1:35:43 GMT
okay, so i conceed to it being a fuel - tho a bio-substance with a petrochem structure, rather than an actual petrochemical makes far more sense.
If such is agreed upon, then obviously the distilling process undergone within the hive-bergs is meerly to extract the bio-fuel from the water as it passes through a piping network within the hive.
EDIT: Addtionally any and all vehicles on our planet will obviously be built with their engines designed to get the most out of this slightly different fuel. Resulting in marginally improved performance than its standard petro-engine based counterparts. Also, obviously these engines would also be able to cope with running on petro-chems, its just that such an event never happens.
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Post by Doug on Feb 4, 2007 9:33:51 GMT
Good point on the engines - that'll have to be mentioned when the bit on the fuel is written up in th introduction.
Is everyone happy with the idea that the fuel's one as described above by Vendile as, "a bio-substance with a petrochem structure?" If they are, do they feel the fuel requires any more discussion, or shall I lock this topic and place it, along with the timeline, in a newly created, "Completed Discussions," board (I'll wait until people agree to this before putting them both in, rather thandoing the timeline now)? Or does it need more work?
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Post by inquisitorarantel on Feb 4, 2007 12:20:44 GMT
No, I think that's about right. Obviously others may agree, and I do have one last point- there should be another by-product of the process that creates this fuel in the first place that's less dense, so it floats on top in a fairly deep layer, meaning extraction has to be quite deep- hence the hive-bergs.
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Post by vendile on Feb 4, 2007 13:04:44 GMT
well now we have a better idea of what exactly it is - once everyone has consented a new thread should be made with the finalised description in the opening post, this thread will be to discuss a possible name for the resource, personally is quite like the sound of "Metroline", pronounced metro-leen
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Post by thenephew on Feb 4, 2007 16:54:18 GMT
Metroline sounds fine, but I'd question 40K-acy. Petroleum based products seem to be approximately converted to Prometheum, from what I read in earlier bits of this thread. Try converting Metroline into Latin, then Greek, then Latin, then Greek again, and see what comes out.
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Post by mohauk on Feb 4, 2007 20:47:46 GMT
Ive just finished writing up a chemical diagram of the oceans, which involves a hydrocarbon (petrochemical) upper layer ans two thinner lower layers which the less dense fuel floats on top of. But it can very easily be modified for the top layer to be a sort of biological sludge, as you have suggested, where the organisms are formed of hydrocarbon compounds. All ti means is that the few occasionally triggered reactions I have mentioned would kill some of the organisms so that they are broken down by the reactions.
I'd quite like to get this plan thing up even if it is rejected, but I'm not sure how to get a word document with pictures (diagram) onto a board like this. I am the ultimate in technophobia.
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Post by vendile on Feb 4, 2007 22:45:32 GMT
you can't do that with word docs anyway. If you have acrobat professional though, you can save it(in word) as a PDF - which you can then open in Abode Illistrator, in whcih it can become a jpeg.
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Post by inquisitorarantel on Feb 5, 2007 16:25:55 GMT
Metrolenium.
It's got the old "ium" ending you need, so it sounds like the kind of name you'd get. Of course, the AdMech would probably have something long and complicated along the lines of
"Biologically-derived hydroignition actuator fuel gamma"
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Post by necris on Feb 7, 2007 0:56:12 GMT
I had an idea for the "fuel"
making it an end product a combination of several other resources havested from the world's oceans and when mixed and combined in the right quanities bonds to form different types of promethiums
the you can have Metroline Promethium the best source of promethium in the universe
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Post by thenephew on Feb 7, 2007 20:25:09 GMT
That's an idea I like. This explains why there hasn't been a huge fuss made over this world before, if it is just another type of promethium, the best type. It also prevents the world becoming completely self-sufficient, which is something I rarely believe about Imperial worlds - that the planet they found will have everything the growing boy could need.
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Post by Doug on Feb 7, 2007 20:36:48 GMT
That works very well, actually, you're right...also leads to a few more possibilities in the planet's politics...
EDIT: With Necris' new idea, I'm not really sure whether this counts as a completed discussion...what do people think? Should I leave it for the moment, or?
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Post by thenephew on Feb 8, 2007 19:01:55 GMT
I think this need to be worked out in more detail. If Necris could step back in for a little more detail on where he sees this incarnation of metroline/promethium going. I'm in favour of having the promethium metrolinated by waste products of sea floor bacteria. This metroline floats just below the surface of the sea, and is harvested in vast quantities by the hive-bergs. It is refined and purified, then sold as a liquid additive to promethium. It makes fuels burn hotter, because they burn cleaner, as a result of the catalytic effects of an unusual [heavy metal/metalloid] structure central to the metroline compound. Attempts to isolate and breed these bacteria separately have been unsucessful despite the Adeptus Mechanicus Biologis placing several well known and respected Magi on the problem. A theory gaining support is that there may be compounds, as yet undiscovered by deep sea probes, that are key to the formation of the catalytic properties, or that there are additional bacteria that pretreat the material before metrolinicum bacillus respires it.
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